BBC 6 minute English-Are beards back to stay

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Rob: Hello and welcome to 6 Minute English. I’m Rob

Neil: …and I’m Neil. Hello

Rob: Hi there, Neil! Now, Neil… what’s that on your face

Neil: What… this? It’s a beard, Rob. Have you never seen one before

Rob: I have. But I’ve never seen one on you before… and I’m surprised to say, it looks good on you

Neil: Well, thank you! I thought I’d get on the beard bandwagon, you know. Beards are all the rage at the moment – that means very fashionable

Rob: And to get on a bandwagon is when you join other people in doing something that has become popular – perhaps because you hope to become popular yourself

Neil: Well, that doesn’t apply to me, Rob, because, as you know, I’m very popular already

Rob: Yes. Yes, I know that, of course… Anyway, beards are such a talking point – a subject that a lot of people are discussing – that we decided to talk about them on today’s programme! So are you ready for today’s question, Neil? What’s the name for someone who loves beards? Is it

a) barbophile

b) pogonophile? or

c) pelophile

Neil: Hmm. All the answers sound tempting. But I’m going to go for a) barbophile

Rob: Right. OK, well we’ll find out if you’re right or wrong later on. But this is interesting: a new scientific study suggests that the more beards there are in a population, the less attractive they become – and this currently gives clean-shaven men a competitive advantage

Neil: Oh, no! That’s bad news for me, then! Competitive advantage means when a condition or circumstance puts you in a favourable position – in this case, being clean-shaven or having no facial hair

Rob: That’s right. We’ve reached ‘peak beard’ apparently. Beard popularity has peaked – or reached its highest point – and will decline in popularity from this point

Neil: OK. Let’s listen to writer, Lucinda Hawksley, talking about beards through history. And listen out for a word that means women’s struggle to achieve the same rights and opportunities as men

Lucinda Hawksley, writer of Moustaches, Whiskers and Beards

It’s interesting, while I was writing the book I came to realize that the most heavily bearded times in Britain are either when women are in power, such as Elizabeth I or Queen Victoria, or when there’s a big discussion of feminism – and it is really interesting that in the last few years there’s been so much more discussion of feminism. You get a woman on the throne and men go, ‘Oh, got to have a beard.’ It’s really strange. Or in the 60s or 70s with all the kind of, you know, big thing about women’s lib, suddenly the beard becomes huge here

Rob: Well, needless to say Lucinda doesn’t have a beard, but she certainly knows a lot about them. She’s the great great granddaughter of famous writer Charles Dickens, who sported – or wore – a very flamboyant beard. Flamboyant means eye-catching and different

Neil: Now, did you spot the word for women’s struggle to achieve the same rights as men

Rob: Yes. It’s feminism. She also talks about women’s lib, which is short for women’s liberation. And this has a similar meaning to feminism. So, what do you think, Neil? Are beards a show of testosterone in reaction to powerful women? Is that why you’ve grown your beard

Neil: I don’t think it’s testosterone – that’s the main male hormone. For me, it’s laziness. I’m flying the flag for men’s lib – liberation from the razor

Rob: Right. Well, I’m not sure whether that’s a worthy cause or not, Neil. Let’s hear from Brock Elbank, the photographer behind the exhibition ‘Beard’. He’s talking about one of the people he photographed

Brock Elbank, photographer

I found Jimmy on a friend’s Facebook page whilst I was in Sydney. Invited him to come to my home studio for a portrait and I posted it and it got reblogged over half a million times in four hours. I mean I think when Jimmy and I… when I met Jimmy he told me about his ‘beard season’ melanoma charity and I was kind of on board from the get go

Neil: So Jimmy must have a pretty awesome beard

Rob: Indeed. We should check out the Beard exhibition and find out. But Jimmy has a beard for a special reason, right Neil

Neil: That’s right. Yes. Brock mentions Jimmy’s melanoma charity. Melanoma is a serious type of skin cancer and Jimmy is raising money and awareness to help people who suffer from it

Rob: And Brock says he was on board from the get go – meaning he wanted to be involved with the charity right from the start

Neil: We should also mention ‘Movember’ and ‘Decembeard’ – both campaigns invite men to get hairy for good causes

Rob: That’s right, good causes – moustaches in November and beards in December. Now, let’s have the answer to the quiz question. I asked: what’s the name for someone who loves beards. Was it

a) barbophile

b) pogonopile or

c) pelophile

Neil: And I said a) barbophile

Rob: Wrong, I’m afraid. The answer is actually b) pogonophile

Neil: Oh, well, you can’t win them all. Now then, Rob, can we hear today’s words again

Rob: Sure. We heard

all the rage get on a bandwagon talking point competitive advantage clean shaven peaked sport flamboyant feminism women’s lib testosterone melanoma on board from the get go

Neil: Well, that’s the end of today’s 6 Minute English. We hope it wasn’t too hair-raising for you. Please join us again soon

Both: Bye