BBC 6 minute English-Football songs: Why are crowds so quiet these days

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Dan: Hello and welcome to 6 Minute English. I’m Dan

Neil: And I’m Neil

Dan: Now, Neil, do you like going to live football matches

Neil: Oh yes, I love it

Dan: Is it better than watching them on TV

Neil: Well, you don’t really see as much as you do on TV, but then on TV you don’t really feel the atmosphere. You can’t sing along with the chants and songs at home

Dan: Well, it’s good you mentioned the songs and chants because that is today’s topic. It seems that for some football clubs, the atmosphere in the stadiums is becoming a bit ‘quiet’. Now, before we look at this topic in more detail, here is today’s quiz. As we are talking about football, in which decade was the first ever international football played

a) in the 1870s

b) in the 1890s

c) in the 1910s

Neil: I could be wrong but I think it was before the turn of the century, so I’ll say the 1890s

Dan: Well, we’ll see if you’re right or not later in the show. Now, songs and chants are part of the experience of football matches. But where do they come from? What are they about? Here’s Joe Wilson from BBC Sport. Which team name does he mention

Joe Wilson

Some songs can be witty, honed specifically to celebrate a certain player or moment in a club’s history. Others rely more on a hypnotic repetition of syllables. U-NI-TED, for example

Dan: So, which team does he mention

Neil: Well, he used the syllables from United. This isn’t one team as there are quite a few professional teams in Britain that have United in their names, in fact there are over a dozen. Perhaps the most well-known though would be Manchester United

Dan: I think fans of Welling United might argue with you about that! Anyway, what did Wilson say about the nature of football songs

Neil: He said they could be witty. Witty means funny but in a clever way. He also said that they could be honed

Dan: Honed is an interesting word here. Something that is honed is carefully crafted, skilfully created and developed over a period of time

Neil: When it comes to witty football songs Wilson describes them as being honed to be about a particular player, or a moment in a club’s history. But these aren’t the only kinds of songs. Another kind of song he describes is the hypnotic repetition of syllables

Dan: Something that is hypnotic repeats again and again – like a magical spell or chant. What’s interesting is that in football songs words can have more syllables than you would expect

Neil: Oh yes, for example, let’s take England. Two syllables, right

Dan: Right

Neil: Wrong! At least in a football stadium it becomes three syllables. Eng – ger – land, Eng – ger – land

Dan: Alright! Thank you! Let’s listen to Mr Wilson again

Joe Wilson

Some songs can be witty, honed specifically to celebrate a certain player or moment in a club’s history. Others rely more on a hypnotic repetition of syllables. U-NI-TED, for example

Dan: Now, apparently, in many stadiums, the crowds aren’t singing as much as they used to. Some managers have complained that the fans are too quiet and that this has a negative effect on the players. So what are some of the reasons for this? Here’s BBC Sport’s Joe Wilson again. How many reasons does he mention

Joe Wilson: The decline in singing may be explained by changing demographics in football attendance. Older supporters, more expensive tickets. Or by stadium design. All-seater arenas may discourage the instinct to stand up and sing

Dan: So, what reasons did he give for the decline in singing, for the fact that singing is getting less common

Neil: He gave a number of reasons. He talked about the change in demographics. Demographics refers to a section of the population that do a particular thing. It can refer to age groups or wealth, for example

Dan: What Wilson says is that the members that make up a football crowd are changing. They are older and wealthier, and perhaps that is a demographic or group that is less likely to sing in public

Neil: Another reason he gives is that sitting down might also discourage people from singing. If something discourages you, it makes you not want to do it. Most stadiums in the UK have to have seats and maybe singing is something that people feel happier doing when they are standing up

Dan: Well the final whistle is about to blow on today’s programme. Before that though, here’s the answer to our quiz question. I asked you when the first international football match took place

Neil: And I took a guess with the 1890s

Dan: And that’s a red card, I’m afraid, Neil. The first international football match took place in the 1870s between England and Scotland

Neil: Oh, come on ref

Dan: And now, to take us to the whistle, let’s review today’s vocabulary

Neil: The first word we had was witty. A kind of humour that is smart and clever

Dan: Then we had honed for something that is crafted and improved over time. A bit like my physique. I’ve been honing my body in the gym

Neil: Really? Are you being witty

Dan: I wasn’t trying to! Anyhow, we then heard about hypnotic repetition to describe the effect of thousands of people repeating the syllables of a football team over and over and over and over and over and over and over

Neil: OK, Dan! OK, Dan! We use the phrase a decline in to say that something is getting less

Dan: Demographics refers to a group or section of the population that is involved a particular activity

Neil: And finally we had the verb discourage for something that makes us less likely to do something

Dan: Well, that is it for this programme. If you’re not interested in football, I hope we didn’t discourage you from listening again

Neil: Indeed, I hope it doesn’t lead to a decline in our audience. We want to have as wide a demographic as possible

Dan: So with that in mind, don’t forget to find us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube, and of course, on our website – bbclearninenglish.com! Bye

Neil: Goodbye