BBC 6 minute English-Why we forget the things we learn

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.Georgina: Hello. This is 6 Minute English from BBC Learning English. I’m Georgina

.Rob: And I’m Rob

Georgina: Do you have a good memory, Rob? Can you remember people’s names, or where you left your car keys

Rob: Well, I can remember people’s faces, but I have a terrible memory for names. And sometimes I’ll be eagerly reading a book but then a week later I can’t remember a single thing about it

Georgina: Well, you’re not alone. Many people find it hard to remember things they’ve read or learned while other, sometimes useless, information sticks with them

Rob: In this programme, we’ll be finding out why we forget the things we’ve learned, whether that’s someone’s name, a word in English or where you put your wallet

Georgina: But first let me ask you my quiz question, Rob – before I forget. You and I might struggle to remember someone’s phone number but Chinese student, Chao Lu, has a record-breaking memory. In 2005, she recited the numbers of pi, the mathematical equation describing the proportions of a circle – but how many digits did she manage to remember? Was it ?a) 48,000 b) 68,000? or ?c) 88,000

.Rob: Wow! It sounds like Chao Lu has an incredible memory! I’ll say she remembered b) 68,000 digits of pi

.Georgina: OK, Rob, let’s remember to find out the answer at the end of the programme

Rob: OK, will do. Someone like Chao Lu might have a photographic memory – the ability to remember things in exact detail, like looking at a photograph. But for the rest of us, things are more complicated

Georgina: Dr Jared Horvath is an educational neuroscientist at the University of Melbourne. According to him, there are two rules which explain how we remember information

Rob: Listen to Dr Horvath talking to BBC World Service programme, The Why Factor, and see if you can hear the two rules he mentions

Dr Jared Horvath

Rule number one is repetition is key. The odds of remembering something after a one-off are incredibly slim…unless you can immediately link it to something you already understand – so, my middle name is Cuney… if I ever meet someone named Cuney I’ll never forget that ‘cos I have an immediate link… but if I meet someone named Joe… so a one-off, we all pretty much suck at it – unless we focus. So then rule two then becomes, we remember what we focus on

Georgina: The first rule for remembering is repetition. The odds – meaning the probability, of remembering something are low if you learn it as a one-off – something that only happens once

Rob: Dr Horvath’s second rule is about focus: we remember what we focus on. This involves making links between new information and something you already understand

Georgina: These are the most effective methods of remembering, and most of us suck at – or are bad at – other ways of remembering things

Rob: Now, of course, one group of people who need good memory is students. Do you remember cramming for school exams, Georgina

Georgina: Ah yes, staying up late trying to revise everything the night before an exam. I remember doing that – but it didn’t work

Rob: Yes. Dr Horvath’s research found that students who cram for tests forget around 90% of what they studied within 72 hours

Georgina: He thinks education shouldn’t be about trying to cram students’ heads with facts and figures. It should involve something more meaningful, as he explains to BBC World Service’s, The Why Factor

Dr Jared Horvath

The thing that I like about education is its really moving from a model of ‘just memorise as much as you can’ into what we now call deep learning which is, instead of giving you a hundred things and I just need to know that you can remember them, I’m going to give you ten things and instead of just being able to remember them, I want you to be able to describe it deeply and come up with new ways of looking at it

Rob: Traditionally, education involves memorising – learning information exactly as it is so that you can repeat it later

Georgina: But being able to repeat something like a parrot doesn’t always mean you understand it. Dr Horvath advocates a technique called deep learning – a complete way of learning something that means you fully understand and will not forget it

Rob: So, remember: repetition, focus and deep learning are the memory muscles we need. Maybe that’s how Chinese student, Chau Lu, developed her record-breaking memory. You do remember your quiz question, don’t you, Georgina

Georgina: Yes, thank you, Rob – my memory isn’t that bad! I asked you how many digits of the mathematical equation, pi, she could remember

.Rob: And I said b) 68,000 digits

Georgina: Which was… the correct answer! Actually, the number was so long it took her over 24 hours without a break to recite it all

Rob: Oh Wow! Her brain must have be aching after all that. OK, let’s recap the vocabulary from this programme starting with a photographic memory which is the ability to remember things in exact detail, like looking at a photograph

.Georgina: The odds of something happening mean the chances that it will happen

.Rob: A one-off is something that only happens once

Georgina: To suck at something is an informal way to say ‘be bad at doing something’. It’s more common in American English

.Rob: If you memorise something, you learn it exactly so that you can repeat it later

Georgina: And finally, deep learning describes a complete way of learning something so that you fully understand it and will not forget it

Rob: OK, well, that’s all from us, but don’t forget to join us again soon for more trending topics and top tips to help you remember useful and everyday English vocabulary. Bye for now

!Georgina: Bye